obiwankedah
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Post by obiwankedah on May 20, 2005 16:27:38 GMT 8
in ANH obiwan said to luke "you father wanted u to have this when u are old enough" and then handed luke anakin's lightsaber
anakin never told him that in ROTS at mustafar
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in ANH obiwan said to luke "obi wan kenobi, thats a name i havent use..ohh since before you were born"
whats up with that?
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on May 21, 2005 20:05:05 GMT 8
If you dig hard enough you'll find so many things that doesn't fit in the OT movies...GL tried to exlain everything in the prequels but there's some things that he just can't exlain without making the prequels even more stupid then they already are...
Your 1st question is reasonably easy to explain...Obi Wan told Luke his father wanted him to have the lightsaber because he don't want Luke to know who his father really is. He want Luke to think that his father died an honorable death as a Jedi instead of being seduced by the dark side. This way Luke will undergo his Jedi training believing that he comes from a good Jedi background and will not seek out his father and get pulled into the dark side.
Your 2nd question unfortunately can not be easily exlained. Unless Obi Wan consider himself 'dead' when he chopped off Anakin's legs on Mustafar due to extreme sorrow and disappointment.
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Post by obiwankedah on May 22, 2005 5:04:16 GMT 8
thanks for the explaination
one more thing is how come obi wan didnt remember r2d2 and c3p0 when they met again?
hmmmm
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Post by Sathya, JK on May 22, 2005 21:29:26 GMT 8
in ANH obiwan said to luke "obi wan kenobi, thats a name i havent use..ohh since before you were born" whats up with that? Well, technically he stops going by the name Obi-Wan right around the time Luke is born.. He probably doesn't even hear that name for about 18-odd years. So his reaction is kinda forgivable.. thanks for the explaination one more thing is how come obi wan didnt remember r2d2 and c3p0 when they met again? hmmmm I read a possible explanation for this some time back. The theory is that droids are so common that Obi-Wan can't really tell one from another. Especially one that he didn't own (Remember he said "I can't remember ever owning a droid" or something like that..). To go even deeper, in the ROTS Novelisation, there are numerous references (in the beginning of the book) to Obi-Wan not treating droids like real people. He does keep lecturing Anakin on the way he talks to R2 (such as referring to R2 as "him", and not "it", and about hurting R2's "feelings") However, it doesn't really account for him not recognising Threepio. Old age, perhaps?
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Post by obiwankedah on May 23, 2005 4:18:42 GMT 8
ya mungkin bak kata org melayu dah tua nyanyok
muahahahhahaaaaaaa
dont remember owning a driod konon....
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Post by TheEdge on May 23, 2005 22:01:34 GMT 8
probably it isn't so much as Obi-Wan lying, but rather him and his 'point of view' reasonings. and i must say these Jedis are really good at hiding things. it sure fooled Luke about his father. Jedi mind tricks seems to include more than just using The Force. ;D
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Post by Yupa Anex on May 23, 2005 22:18:23 GMT 8
Mmmmm...About him not remembering the droids?
If you have seen the last part of Ep. III, C3PO gets his memory wiped to prevent him/it from blabbering and therefore Obi-Wan also choses not to remember too as an oath of silence.
This is my opinion.
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Post by Marcus, JK on May 23, 2005 23:34:33 GMT 8
Well, I don't think that Obi-Wan lied per-se. I mean if you take into account that he has been meditating and conducting that special "training" that Master Yoda gave him just after the twins are born maybe he's just forgotten some part of his history as Jedi are supposed to be into the "here and now" right. Oh, and just a reply to TheEdge... Well technically what he said was true. Remember the scene in the Jedi temple when Master Yoda and Obi-Wan have finished recalibrating the beacon signal thingy and Obi-Wan wants to check the security holo-recordings? Well after that even master Yoda says that Anakin, "the boy you trained, is no more. Consumed by this Darth Vader he is" or something like that... ;D
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Post by obiwankedah on May 24, 2005 0:46:10 GMT 8
we all also kena mind tricked by obi wan in the utapau scene we saw him go in the jedi starfighter and then the starfighter left with r4 and without obiwan
no one saw obi wan got out of the starfighter
mind trick we all got kena! (or great editing la)
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Post by Marcus, JK on May 24, 2005 1:03:32 GMT 8
Uh, mebe he used "Force Speed"? Yeah that was super kewl man!
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