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Post by Chakotay on Feb 26, 2005 17:57:12 GMT 8
Thanks Overlord! Yup mine are the Hasbro Helmet. What ArjayVader gonna be then?
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Feb 27, 2005 14:50:48 GMT 8
What ArjayVader gonna be then? Here is your : Answer Ezli.
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Post by onions on Mar 3, 2005 13:31:39 GMT 8
Ah, okay. Edge told me to get an idea what i wanna go as - ANSWER: Jedi.
So means Jedi robes - supposedly.
Do I need to follow you guys to the tailor or rent one?
Thanx!
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Post by fishyahoo on Mar 3, 2005 18:03:31 GMT 8
Ah, okay. Edge told me to get an idea what i wanna go as - ANSWER: Jedi. So means Jedi robes - supposedly. Do I need to follow you guys to the tailor or rent one? Thanx! I'll looking for material to make Jedi Robes tomorrow evening in Jln TAR KL. LMK if you want to join.
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Mar 5, 2005 0:15:42 GMT 8
Ah, okay. Edge told me to get an idea what i wanna go as - ANSWER: Jedi. So means Jedi robes - supposedly. Do I need to follow you guys to the tailor or rent one? Thanx! oic? A Jedi, then perhaps you have turned from the Dark Side of the Force at last, eh onions? To make or rent a prequels Jedi Knight costume really depends on your financial resources. Not to scare you or anything but a helpful figure of the cost that will be involved : 1) To custom make Jedi Knight Outfit : RM200 and above 2) To RENT Jedi Knight Outfit from Fun Costume Shop : RM50.00 So the choice is yours my brave Jedi Warrior...
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Post by Haldir on Mar 5, 2005 11:52:30 GMT 8
1) To custom make Jedi Knight Outfit : RM200 and above Or just the pricetag of the materials if you ask your family member/relative/friend to make the Jedi Garb for free. But of course, the stuffs on the belt, boots and lightsabre will be missing but can settle that using substitudes and a bit of sweat hunting for them.
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Mar 5, 2005 13:11:51 GMT 8
Or just the pricetag of the materials if you ask your family member/relative/friend to make the Jedi Garb for free. Be mindful, my Padawan, as too often had hasty choices led to great regret...
Translation: Yes it'll be cheaper to ask your family member/relative/friend to make a Jedi costume for you but unless they’re master tailor with good knowledge of how a Jedi costume is constructed and how each piece falls into place, the quality and accuracy may be so far off that you look like a medieval farmer or a monk from the monasteries instead of a Jedi.
Even the Jedi costume from most costume rental shops are not up to mark.But of course, the stuffs on the belt, boots and lightsabre will be missing but can settle that using substitudes and a bit of sweat hunting for them. Again, not to scare or discourage anyone, but below are the prices for the items mentioned above:
Belts: US$45, Classic OT belt without saber hook or pouches US$75, Prequel belt without saber hook or pouches US$65, a set of pouches US$5.00 to $10, use an old belt and make your own buckle & saber hook
Boots: US$150 to $200: Leather knee-length outworld boots, not SW accurate US$250 to $350: Leather knee-length outworld boots, SW accurate US$2.00 to $5.00, wear an existing pair of dress shoes and wrap bandages on your leg.
Lightsaber: Master Replica: US$250 to $500, depending on model Flashgun Lightsaber: US$100 to $500, depending on model and accuracy Costum Lightsaber: US$75 to $ 250, depending on design and material Hasbro Plastic Lightsaber: US$9.90 to $29.90 Or you can make your own using everyday parts found around you
All prices are estimates and does not reflect packaging & handling charges, shipping charges and customs duty(if any).
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Post by fishyahoo on Mar 5, 2005 18:31:04 GMT 8
Assume all those prices are from overseas online retailers.
Before anyone gets scared-off, look at the last price for each item. Means you can still get their accessories reasonably cheaply with some scavenging around the market.
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Post by Haldir on Mar 6, 2005 13:12:38 GMT 8
Be mindful, my Padawan, as too often had hasty choices led to great regret...
PS: That is when you SHOULDN'T just gave the pictures to your "free/cheap labourer" and leave him/her to figure out how to make the costume his/herself. You should provide him/her with ample photo references, layer by layer photo/sketch and spend up to hours explaining exactly how you want the costume to be done through, having read instructions online on how it was done by others and fitting sessions plus follow-ups to see the progress of the costume ( or stay with him/her as she make yours). Then again, there is always the problem of the person going bird-brain so follow-ups are very essentials or better still, make the person do mock-ups first. Maybe you're thinking by the mentality of local cosplayers who always leave the figuring out to their tailors without viewing it from the costumer's point of view. Anyhow, try NOT to rely too much on overseas sources. For example the Jedi Belt, those rivets may be available at most Leather Goods making shops. And local leathers ( especially in Malaysia) is probably cheaper ( and you know for sure it's Halal or Haram ). For the boots, have a look at Horse Riding/Polo Club Wear Shops or go for Boots Wrap over an existing high cut dress shoes or boots. So go explore for a local or regional source first before you turn to international. Ya, I know most of the time, we are just lazy bum who want the easy way out and got the money to burn, but a little search won't hurt, rite?
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Mar 6, 2005 15:30:29 GMT 8
You should provide him/her with ample photo references, layer by layer photo/sketch and spend up to hours explaining exactly how you want the costume to be done through, having read instructions online on how it was done by others and fitting sessions plus follow-ups to see the progress of the costume ( or stay with him/her as she make yours). NOTE: the FULL CAP words below is meant to HIGHLIGHT or STRESS a word and is not to be mistaken for SHOUTING
Hi Haldir, thanks for sharing. However, its easier said then done my friend, unless a) You have a LOT of free time on your hands and b) Your family member/relative/friend ALSO have a LOT of free time on THEIR hands. I have done the research, I know what needs to be done, but to get someone who's TOTALLY not interested in costuming to sit down for hours after hours, days after days to LEARN everything I have learnt so far is almost IMPOSSIBLE. I can't even get my mom to learn how to use the phonebook in her handphone or learn how to send or even retrieve SMS sent to her handphone, because she's just NOT INTERESTED.
Not only that, even PROFESSIONAL costume makers are not so eager to take on something they haven't done before. I was liaising with the owner of a local costume company to make my Jedi costume for the EP3 premier; after supplying her with reference drawings, links to websites with more detailed drawings and tutorials, and she said, and I quote: "U will hv to give me a proper design of yr choice from all the three design earlier. I don't hv the time to draw as I m very busy. Very very busy !!! Doing DETAILED costume is tough. I want front & back & sides of picture."
If a PROFESSIONAL COSTUME MAKER who I'm PAYING to do work for me can tell me something like that, imagine what a person who only sews as a hobby, or even a non-costume making tailor will say when bombarded with all that raw information. Then again, there is always the problem of the person going bird-brain so follow-ups are very essentials or better still, make the person do mock-ups first. Yes exactly, having to digest so much information from scratch will definitely make someone’s brain turn to jelly. Mock ups are fine if you’re making like 10 or more of the same costume, but to make mock up, or mock ups for ONE costume is not a wise thing to do, as it’ll end up costing more then getting it from someone who has done it before and can get it right and PERFECT the FIRST TIME.Anyhow, try NOT to rely too much on overseas sources. For example the Jedi Belt, those rivets may be available at most Leather Goods making shops. And local leathers ( especially in Malaysia) is probably cheaper ( and you know for sure it's Halal or Haram ). For the boots, have a look at Horse Riding/Polo Club Wear Shops or go for Boots Wrap over an existing high cut dress shoes or boots. So go explore for a local or regional source first before you turn to international. . I’ve ALWAYS tried to use local sources before going international, but they have let me down over and over again. Local sources do not appreciate the seriousness and do not give the attention to detail of their international counterparts when it comes to something like this. To our local sources, as long as it ‘LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE IT’, they think it’ll be ok. When you press them for better quality and accuracy, they get irritated because to them its all Ringgit and Sens, and they’d rather be doing something else which makes more money and takes less time to make. Case in point: I’ve been hunting high and low for a local machine shop to make a Luke ROTJ Lightsaber for me, which needs to be machined out of a solid piece of aluminum. I finally found one who gave it a go, and although it didn’t turn out 100% to my satisfaction, it was ok considering it costs quite a bit less then what I would pay if I ordered from overseas. So I ask to make a few more, as some friends are also interested to have it. However the machine shop owner refuse to make even one more, because it takes too long and ties up his machinist for other bigger job which takes the same amount of time but which he can charge double or triple the amount. Also the machinist, being someone who is ‘just doing a job’ didn’t bother to take care with certain sections which I specifically told him to be careful about, and ended up making some mistakes. To the layman it is not noticeable, but I know its there, and so will other serious lightsaber makers if they see it. You see, when someone who do not share the same passion as you makes something for you, they don’t put their mind and soul into it. I prefer to work with people who are passionate about what they do, even if they do it part-time. Sadly I haven’t found anyone like this locally. Ya, I know most of the time, we are just lazy bum who want the easy way out and got the money to burn, but a little search won't hurt, rite? Even when there’s money to burn you simply CAN NOT GET and CAN NOT FIND what you want locally. I’m wiling to pay for a locally made SCREEN ACCURATE Darth Vader suit, because it’ll save me loads on shipping, but can anyone make it here? The nearest person who can get it SCREEN ACCURATE is in Australia. Local sources just do not have the interest and know how to get it right, so we have NO CHOICE but to go international. For crying out loud we can’t even find the exact material, or even material in the COREECT COLOUR locally used for the Jedi costume. So no, we’re NOT lazy, but there’s simply just no such resources locally.
I tried to find out how much a pair of riding boots costs, but guess what? I can’t even find ONE SINGLE local website (with a .com.my behind it) that sells equestrian equipment. All the links are for international websites. Surprise surprise! And if I have to go personally to every shop and hunt down what I need I’ll be old before I can put anything together. Plus a lot of older, more established companies that have good variety of goods and better services who DO have a website don’t do online sales or accept online credit card payment. Although I didn't manage to find out how much a pair of riding boots cost, I suspect they're not cheap, probably in the range of RM250 to RM400? Plus I'll need to spend some more money and time to dress them up to look like Jedi boots. Furthermore whatever 'add-ons' I put on the riding boots may fall off or require constant adjustments while I'm walking. Why not just spend the same amount, or even slightly more and get a pair of purpose-made Jedi boots which you know will NOT give you any problems?
Also please note I have given a cheap alternative at the end of each category, especially for those who DO NOT WANT TO RELY ON INTERNATIONAL SOURCES.
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