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Post by icheekaze on Apr 15, 2005 23:53:13 GMT 8
Thought I'd just oblige the group and start this. ;D
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Apr 16, 2005 15:10:14 GMT 8
Eeeerrrr.....the spontaniety is gone now lah...don't know what to write anymore... 
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Post by vkkf1977 on Apr 18, 2005 10:10:31 GMT 8
how abt the usual - make love not "war"? ;D
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Post by fishyahoo on Apr 18, 2005 22:16:14 GMT 8
how abt the usual - make love not "war"? ;D Scant little of that in Star Wars... OK, discussion point... If the Jedi are forbidden to love and form close relationships, isn't that just simple sending themselves to extinction since Force talent is largely inherited? So, Jedi can't have babies mean progressively less Jedi.  If the Jedi could make babies within their own, then there's no need to seek out fresh Force talent throughout the Galaxy. In fact, the Jedi could simply control their own numbers or procreate somemore and conquer the galaxy... har, har... Dark Side thinking! Hence, maybe Love is a Dark Side emotion deemed too dangerous to practice  |
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Apr 18, 2005 23:27:08 GMT 8
That, is an interesting point.
But maybe we're looking at it from the wrong angle. jedi may not be encouraged to love, hate or fear, but that doesn't mean they can't procreate. Remember the Jedis in the SW universe they are not humans. Yes, difficult I know, since they look human, behave like human and are human in every way, but they're NOT human, so they might not NEED love to procreate. They may be able to procreate for the sake of procreating...
Just like so many people on earth decide to have a baby without being married, or the need for the other half of the equation. Example: women who get themselvespregnant using artificial insemination with sperm from sperm bank, Men who use sorogate mothers, e.g. Michael Jackson, etc etc etc...what does love have to do with any of these?NOTHING!
Ok that's my 2 cents. I'm sure Hisham will have something to say about it ;D
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Post by vkkf1977 on Apr 19, 2005 8:45:54 GMT 8
you what i just realised? that only in humanoid forms are there many jedi's... other alien forms, it's only 1 representation... If that was the case, how did does 1 in an alien species come abt? or am i really not watching properly???  |
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Post by fishyahoo on Apr 19, 2005 14:17:45 GMT 8
What not HUMAN? My understanding is that the humans in the Star Wars universe are HUMAN and bred like we do (Anakin being exception). There are certainly also many alien Jedi in the Prequels but yes there seems to be more humans than others though there are many non-humans represented in the Jedi Council.
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Apr 19, 2005 18:40:36 GMT 8
What not HUMAN? My understanding is that the humans in the Star Wars universe are HUMAN and bred like we do (Anakin being exception). There are certainly also many alien Jedi in the Prequels but yes there seems to be more humans than others though there are many non-humans represented in the Jedi Council.
But then again I never bothered to find out iof this information is canon or not. I read it for the fun of it off some website, so I could be wrong... ;D |
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Post by icheekaze on Apr 19, 2005 23:32:23 GMT 8
But maybe we're looking at it from the wrong angle. jedi may not be encouraged to love, hate or fear, but that doesn't mean they can procreate. Remember the Jedis in the SW universe they are not humans. Yes, difficult I know, since they look human, behave like human and are human in every way, but they're NOT human, so they might not NEED love to procreate. They may be able to procreate for the sake of procreating...
Just like so many people on earth decide to have a baby without being married, or the need for the other half of the equation. Example: women who get themselvespregnant using artificial insemination with sperm from sperm bank, Men who use sorogate mothers, e.g. Michael Jackson, etc etc etc...what does love have to do with any of these?NOTHING!
aren't you contradicting yourself by one minute saying humans need love to procreate and the next making babies without it? Love is more required for raising the kid that for creating one. Heh, maybe the humanoids in Star Wars are like Sebaceans (Farscape reference). We do love to see ourselves as the perfect form. Somebody should make them read Planet of the Apes... |
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Post by Plo Strax-Avix on Apr 20, 2005 19:10:59 GMT 8
aren't you contradicting yourself by one minute saying humans need love to procreate and the next making babies without it? 
First I said "Jedi may not be encouraged to love, hate or fear, but that doesn't mean they can't procreate", meaning Jedi's don't need love to reproduce.
Then I gave the human equivalent for comparison: "Just like so many people on earth decide to have a baby without being married, or the need for the other half of the equation", which means a lot of humans don't need love to reproduce as well.
How did I contradict myself there? ;D |
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