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Post by kalkamel on Jul 19, 2007 18:10:43 GMT 8
Hey Tyler, thanks for the clarification on the macguffin. I've always associated the term with the central object being the motivation for the protagonists as well as antagonists in a movie. For example, in the Indiana Jones trilogy, the macguffin in Raiders was the Ark of the Covenant, in Temple of Doom it was the Sankara stones and in Last Crusade it was the Holy Grail. None of these objects lost relevance throughout the movie and played a important role in each movie's climax. Similarly in Pulp Fiction, there was the suitcase although its relevance was a bit questionable according to the flow of the movie. Anyway, I digress...
Anyone else notice how the Decepticons were larger than the Autobots? Megatron was carrying and throwing Prime like a 6" man fighting with a 5" one.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 20, 2007 11:01:59 GMT 8
u r welcome, brother kalkamel. actually, ur example of the indy series is correct--those artefacts were indeed considered macguffins. and we have steven spielberg himself to blame for being pretty liberal with the definition of the term. probably lucas more than spielberg, since lucas is the one who usually helped concoct the artefact indy would pursue. in fact, for the latest indy film (tentatively titled "indiana jones and the city of the gods"), he all but discarded frank darabont's script and injected a new macguffin into the story. apparently, spielberg and harrison ford were at first sceptical abt "it" saying it was "too familiar". what "it" is, is anyone's guess cos the script has been so closely guarded. rumor has it the macguffin is the infamous crystal skull and the plot is related to the ancient astronaut theory. i'm pretty excited at seeing indy again after all these yrs. just praying they won't mess it up. but i digress. ;D i guess the filmmakers wanted to justify the character being called MEGAtron, so they made him huge and thus very intimidating. i was slightly annoyed at megatron's design. he resembled nothing of the original. but the two-arms-combining-to-form-the-fusion-cannon idea was cool tho. too bad it was barely seen. something tells me we haven't seen the last of him tho. i'd definitely like to see the megatron-starscream dynamic in the sequels. starscream being the cowardly traitor always makes for good drama!
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Post by Red on Jul 21, 2007 13:35:04 GMT 8
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Post by kalkamel on Jul 21, 2007 20:12:04 GMT 8
Perish the thought, RRG! Unless you wanna see a movie with an Autobot voiced by Awie who falls in love with a girlie Autobot voiced by Erra Fazira! With musical interloudes and ridiculous acting, even by CGI characters! Never would I condone such an abomination!
And a Proton that turns into a Transformer? Hehehehehe... quality control issues abound!
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Jul 22, 2007 3:41:44 GMT 8
And a Proton that turns into a Transformer? Hehehehehe... quality control issues abound! How about a local version of BumbleBee then transforming into KANCIL in lieu of a VW?
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Post by kalkamel on Jul 22, 2007 19:37:44 GMT 8
Even worse... all you need to destroy it would be to push it... once it falls on the floor, it's totally irreparable.
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Post by kalkamel on Jul 24, 2007 14:17:41 GMT 8
You are correct, unless we want to hear the Autobots and Decepticons voiced by our "multi-talented" local celebs with a weaker-than-weak storyline, better keep the thoughts to myself!
Multi-talentless, you mean...
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 24, 2007 18:21:40 GMT 8
if the transformers were local cars, they'd have to really ugly themselves up (down?) to blend in. eg: if bumblebee mimicked a typical proton iswara from cheras/balakong/klang he'd be forced to hv hideous ahbeng exhaust mufflers and "sports" rims, plus chrome trimmings everywhere (petrol flap, door handles, etc). ugh. i just lost my appetite thinkin abt it.
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Post by kalkamel on Jul 25, 2007 12:26:03 GMT 8
If that made you lost your appetite, imagine a Mat Rempit finding out his kapchai is really a Decepticon transformer!
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