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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Jan 16, 2007 16:38:46 GMT 8
Differences I noticed between "Made-in-China" and "Made in Singapore": China: upper and lower chest and upper/lower back are one piece Singapore: upper and lower chest plate seperate (same for back) China: Biceps mould/shape not accurate(just round "water pipe" shape); Singapore: Looks better/more accurate(haven't really confirmed) but at least not a simple round "water pipe" shape as the China one; China: Not so glossy (from the pix) Singapore: More glossy surface (from pix) China: No separate groin plate Singapore: Separate groin plate That's all I can spot so far at a glance You have done GOOD VISUAL analysis of the Singapore fan made Episode III Clonetrooper armor kit vs this Made in CHINA Ep III clonetrooper armor from eBay :
I'll ADD on further to what you have listed out from an armored costumer's perspective :
1. For PRACTICAL REASONS : you will definitely want the UPPER TORSO - ABDOMEN - COD Armor pieces to be separate, esp. when you NEED to make that emergency visit to the GENTS in the middle of Long trooping! ;D If the upper and lower chest and upper and lower back is ONE PIECE you have to REMOVE all the front armor before you can ease yourself. If the armor is separate, all you have to is to remove the Cod piece, do your business, put it back on and resume trooping. ;D
2. SHAPE of the PULL or FORM : You have observed yourself that the China made Clonterooper kit have Biceps that are not accurately shaped and looks like "round water pipe" whilst the Singapore one looks better / more accurate. Also there is also a risk that the China made "one piece water pipe" may NOT fit your biceps whilst the Singapore made 2 piece biceps armor can be adjusted to FIT your own biceps during the pre-assembly dry run stage. Also you won't have your entire arm into that "water pipe" ;D
3. DURABILITY of MATERIALS USED. From the pics, I SUSPECT that the China made is clonetrooper armor which is "not so glossy (from the pix)" would have been made of a cheaper and LESS DENSER material called STYRENE, which is also porous and brittle. As I have suspected it may not last in the long term after a few trooping in it ....and KOYAK!! Also damage could also occur at the cutting stage as you attempt to separate the Chest, Abdomen and Cod pieces from the Front and Back piece.
The Singapore made armor is a more sturdier fibreglass that is DENSER and MORE DURABLE for trooping in years to come.
4. GROIN PLATE : I have already addressed it as the Cod Armor piece under point no. 1 "PRACTICAL REASONS" ;D
The BOTTOMLINE is a cheaper set of armor will save you on the initial expenses, but will COST you MORE to MAINTAIN it, esp. when CRACKS appear after a trooping event with the MySciFiFan STAR WARS Costumed Contingent You might have to do more repairs after each trooping and before the next. Perhaps I'll get the "Made in Singapore" Episode III Clonetrooper Armor Kit MAKER to post here to provide further clarifications to you. How about that clonetrooper?
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Post by arek on Jan 16, 2007 22:40:49 GMT 8
Hi Clonetrooper. Glad to hear that you may be investing in a set of armour. As mentioned I just got back from the Rose parade and had a chance to check out the different armours available. The 327th Star Corps Clonetrooper was on the same transport as me in LA and I had a good opportunity to check out his fibreglass helmet and it was nice.
I hope you'll be sure to carefully consider value for money when purchasing a set of armour
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Jan 17, 2007 11:40:07 GMT 8
In fact, I've sent an email to the seller and am still waiting for reply before I consider. And I have REMINDED the seller personally last night to check his e-mail to reply you accordingly. Perhaps he is busy at the moment, please do SEND him a reminder e-mail
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Post by kalkamel on Jan 18, 2007 13:39:22 GMT 8
Hi Did you happen to come across any "sub-standard" (ie.non-ABS/non-fibreglass) trooper armour at the parade?
Knowing the high standard placed by the 501st, especially the requirement that you must look as if you stepped off the screen, I seriously doubt if there were any sub-standard armor present on such an important occassion.
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Post by frost151500 on Jan 19, 2007 3:29:49 GMT 8
I'm new here and have been looking for clone/stormtrooper armor and this great, could you please PM me the contact or website to puchase this armor at? This has to be the best top quality looking kit I have seen anywhere online. Thank you.
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Post by arek on Jan 19, 2007 8:41:43 GMT 8
[quote author=clonetrooper board=armoredcostumes Did you happen to come across any "sub-standard" (ie.non-ABS/non-fibreglass) trooper armour at the parade? Of course "as always" if money no issue and no comittments it's nice to have but "as always" have to weigh the long term pro-and-cons and value-for-money in the long run in this materialistic and individually self-dependant boleh land To be honest, I wouldn't have revived my armour quest now had I not accidentally stumbled upon the reasonoably priced (and good looking) China armour as it takes a lot of money and time to invest in "reasonably acceptable" armour (by US/EU/S'pore standards) and who knows how many years it might stay in the closet until one day I need to sell it off...you know how these "big boys stuff" end up.... I think the China armour is at least minimum acceptable/passable as Trooper armour.... (only die-hard fans and experts will notice the details and differences....for the majority public it looks alright gua)... Anyway, keep on trooping! [/color][/quote] I didn't notice any substandard armour while marching at the parade. Lucasfilm reviewed all the submissions before selecting the troops to be involved. Just looking at the helmet and armour from China, it appears the eyes are cut way too big and the mouth area is incorrect. Seems to be facing forwards instead of down. did you ask for close up photos of any of the armour parts? in the picture from the seller it seems the armour is displayed on a mannequin and it's not fitted correctly.
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Jan 19, 2007 9:10:42 GMT 8
Thanks "TK 8829" for sharing with everyone your observations of the Clonetrooper Armors that you've seen at the 2007 Rose Parade.
You've confirmed with Kalkamel has posted earlier, since the 2007 Rose Parade is a VERY IMPORTANT LucasFilm event, they would have certainly filtered out any substandard entrants. However, since the participants who auditioned are already members of the 501st Legion and most likely members of the Clonetrooper Detachment, they would have invested in a decent set of ABS made Clonetrooper Armor.
Here is the some of the SAME Clonetrooper Armor pics for you to view again as arek has indicated that he did not notice any substandard at this event :
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Post by The SITH OverLORD on Jan 19, 2007 12:10:33 GMT 8
I'm new here and have been looking for clone/stormtrooper armor and this great, could you please PM me the contact or website to puchase this armor at? This has to be the best top quality looking kit I have seen anywhere online. Thank you. Hello frost151500,
Welcome to MySciFiFan forums, esp. to the 501st MALAYSIA-BRUNEI OUTPOST Forum Board.
Firstly, how about sharing with us more about yourself by starting a thread at the INTRODUCTIONS section of the Forums, and in these other threads : POLL: Where are you located?, An Age Survey, A Job Survey
Secondly, in response to your originally posted question - I'll reply your PM after this. Yes I do CONCUR with you that this fan-made fibreglass and resin SW Ep III Clonetrooper Armor Kit can be qualified as one of the best Top Quality looking kit.
Moreover, it is definitely SUPERIOR in terms of QUALITY, DURABILITY and APPEARANCE than that set of Made in CHINA Clonetrooper Armor. I hope that you are living in MALAYSIA so that when you eventually procure your Clonetrooper Armor (hopefully it is the kit in picture ) and/or Stormtrooper Armor you will answer your call of duty to the Galactic Empire by becoming a member of the growing 501st MALAYSIA-BRUNEI OUTPOST. FYI our GML, kalkamel, is also a forum member here.
Enjoy your stay here with fellow ardent STAR WARS Trooper costume Fans!
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Post by frost151500 on Jan 19, 2007 14:34:32 GMT 8
I'll be sure to post in the introduction thread right away, just so excited i finally found a decent priced, high quality made kit...though one question, I am not in Malaysia, and am currently in the United States, do those people who make the clone armor kits sell world wide, or just europe/ asia? I would definitely pay extra for shipping just to the United States, I mean look at stormtrooper armor on ebay, 600+ dollars just for a untrimmed kit + shipping, while here you get a trimmed kit, for less than 600. Thank you for making this thread Sith lord, you really made my day when I saw this thread.
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